Wednesday, November 12, 2008

Bp. Iker Invents the Missouri Synod

Stand Firm has just published an interesting interview with Bp. Iker. The interviewer, Greg Griffith, gets to the heart of the "market analysis" in this question:

Greg Griffith:...My question is: How competitive will the new province be? Because that's what you're gong to be doing, you're going to be out there on the market, competing with the Episcopal Church for membership, and you're going to have to explain to people why it's better to be in "our" province rather than "the other" province. Doctrinally, that should be a slam-dunk, but when it comes to a feeling of permanence, I think there are a lot of people still inside TEC who are of the mind that, while TEC may be apostate, maybe even heretical, in many places, there is perhaps less of a question of where one stands - at least in terms of one's "official" Anglican membership - in a TEC that's over two centuries old, than in a brand-new province with only four dioceses.

Bishop Iker: I think that one of the realities in the Episcopal Church is that there's a great deal of institutional loyalty, and an attachment to buildings, and in the end you have to ask yourself: Is a denominational label, or institutional loyalty, or loyalty to a building, more important than holding to the Gospel? And what has made this time so revolutionary is lots and lots of people deciding that they're willing to walk away from their buildings, and their property, and their denominational loyalty for the sake of the Gospel. And I think the momentum is along those lines, and that it's going to continue to build. ‘By their fruits ye shall know them' is going to be the indicator of how churches grow in the next decade. There will be competition, and there will be rivalry, and one will be blessed by God with growth and one will not. One only has to take a look at the numbers for the Episcopal Church up through 2007, which have just been released, to see that the Episcopal Church is a dying church, a decaying body, and that people are fleeing from it for their own souls' health. The Presiding Bishop said she thought the worst part of the crisis was over, and I think that it's just begun.

Greg Griffith: We've discussed division in the communion as a whole, but I want to talk now about division within the orthodox movement, and I wanted to start generally and then get more specific. Generally, I'd want to start with the inside strategy versus the outside strategy - in America, the desire to take a stand by staying inside the Episcopal Church versus the desire to take a stand by leaving it. At Stand Firm, we try - with varying degrees of success - to foster an attitude whereby both sides respect each other. [sic] Can you talk about these two approaches to the crisis?

Bishop Iker: We've tried to remain and be a faithful witness to the Gospel for the last 25 years, and the situation has gotten worse, not better. It's said that the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect different results, and we have no intention of trying to remain and be that faithful remnant any longer; there's just no future for us. I think the people who have chosen to remain in the Episcopal Church for the time being are going to come to that same conclusion, and it's going to be sooner rather than later, because they're going to have an option to remain faithful Anglicans, by means of another province. TEC won't be the only game in town.

My response, as someone still committed to the "inside strategy" of fostering communion in the midst of conflict, is that TEC isn't the only game in town, and never has been. The only thing that the realignment strategy is doing is creating another denomination. There's the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America and the Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod. How would the "two province" solution be any different than this? The only difference is in the brand name.

We have plenty of Baptist options, Presbyterian options, Methodist/Wesleyan options, and now, if the realigners have their way, we will have more Anglican/Episcopal options.

Of course, the ELCA is a member of the World Lutheran Federation, while the LCMS is not. Will it turn out the same way with TEC and the as-yet-unnamed New Orthodox Anglican North American Province? Will both be a part of the Anglican Communion? What, then, will make the Anglican Communion a communion? (Of course, the question is rightly posed: What now makes the Anglican Communion a communion?) Interestingly, while the World Lutheran Federation has expressed a desire to become less a "federation" and more a "communion of churches," many Anglicans seem headed in exactly the opposite direction.

Bp. Iker and his colleagues have not founded a new province of the Anglican Communion. They've simply created an Anglican version of the LCMS.

And let's not forget WELS!

Congratulations. The denominationalists have scored another victory.

And the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, of which we are both sinful and hurting members, has wounded itself yet again.

What was it Bp. Iker said about the inside strategists? "It's said that the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect different results."

From where I'm sitting, this statement appears to be just as true of those who reform by splitting ad nauseum as it is of anyone else. Perhaps even more so.

Bp. Iker, my brother in Christ, you are simply re-inventing the wheel. And the enemies of the Church thank you. The good news is that I have no doubt that the Holy Spirit is working even now to redeem the mess we've all made. But the Spirit will likely accomplish this redemption despite, not because of, us.

29 comments:

Andrew said...

To be fair, you should also ask why The Episcopal Church is doing its level best to reinvent the Unitarian Universalists.

And if we REALLY wanted to throw darts we could ask why Cranmer and company felt compelled to reinvent the Swiss Reformed churches, or why they felt they had the right to take the buildings and endowments with them that were obviously being held in trust for Rome.

Just a thought

Tom Sramek, Jr. said...

Andrew: Where exactly can you find in the Prayer Book Catechism or the Resolutions of General Convention (the two official statements of church teaching) in which we "reinvent Unitarian Universalists." To my knowledge, we still recite the Nicene Creed, still believe in the Incarnation, Resurrection, etc... regardless of what some may have said.

The interesting thing to me is that the one church in which we did NOT say the Nicene Creed, probably because of that pesky note about believing in the "holy Catholic church", was Church of the Apostles, Fairfax, one of the parishes that departed for CANA.

Yes, we have rather a higher tolerance for diverse theological opinions than I would prefer, but when folks begin to spout blather about the Episcopal Church being apostate or heretical, I ask them as I ask you: Where?

Kevin M said...

I know I've raised this question before, but no one's ever given me a clear answer.

Right now we have all of these people going on and on about how the Episcopal Church (or as they sometimes derisively call it, "Organization") is apostate, heretical, in the hands of Satan, etc.; yet they're still in TEC and sometimes in clergy positions. What keeps them here? If they think this church is so bad that it has completely departed from the Gosel, why do they stay? I can understand a reluctance to leave a church you've belonged to for possibly your whole life even while grieving over the direction it's headed, but if it's so bad that one is speaking publicly in very strident language about how evil it is, why not find another church, even if temporarily?

Of course, then, for those who have left but continue to denounce TEC, didn't Jesus say something about shaking the dust off your feet?

Nathan J.A. Humphrey said...

Hi Andrew,

As a matter of fact, I believe I have been fair, esp. if you read my posts here and here. TEC is trending more toward the UCC than the UUA, though admittedly when I was at Yale my UCC classmates joked that UCC stood for "Unitarians Considering Christ."

And in my second post referenced above, I essentially grant your point about Cranmer. The Anglican Communion should not exist as a schismatic entity. That it does is the result of a consistent refusal to enter into the fullness of God's communion in fulfillment of Jesus' High Priestly Prayer "that they all may be one..."

Blessings,

NH+

Andrew said...

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Right now we have all of these people going on and on about how the Episcopal Church (or as they sometimes derisively call it, "Organization") is apostate, heretical, in the hands of Satan, etc.; yet they're still in TEC and sometimes in clergy positions. What keeps them here? If they think this church is so bad that it has completely departed from the Gosel, why do they stay?
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Yeah, I suppose things would be so much easier if everyone that disagree with the recent direction of the church just up an left. I might point out that Bishop Iker, the subject of this post, is on his way out. I'm not sure why his theological opponents aren't rejoicing.

It works both ways, you know. If Integrity was so convinced that TEC was bigoted, prejudiced, homophobic etc, why did they stick around instead of just leaving and founding their own church?

Obviously there are people on both sides that feel it worth their while to stay within TEC and attempt to move it in the direction they think is best.

tjmcmahon said...

"To my knowledge, we still recite the Nicene Creed, still believe in the Incarnation, Resurrection, etc... regardless of what some may have said."

No longer required in this diocese (N. Michigan). Creed replaced by diocesan "affirmations" or part of the "baptismal covenant", Incarnation and Resurrection held to be allegorical, and the Trinity is a myth. Parishes free to essentially write their own liturgies. PB stops by once a year to proclaim how wonderful it is to see all this happening here. ASA down to 700- that is the diocese, not one parish.

tjmcmahon said...

Fr. Nathan,
On your point re: the Missouri Synod, I will admit that the implication (that I must believe to be unintentional on Bp. Iker's part) of the bishop's words went right by me. But, truth be told, given the state of TEC in many dioceses, staying is no longer an option for a lot of people. Regardless of what is taught in the catechism, or BCP, the bishops and clergy of many dioceses are completely ignoring both, and the Sunday by Sunday teaching completely contradicts the plain reading of the BCP, and often directly contradicts the morning's lectionary readings.
So, until such time as TEC enforces its own discipline, and requires its bishops to be consistent with the canons and catechism, many of us will be saying goodby. Even if that leaves us outside the bounds of the embrace of the Archbishop of Canterbury. TEC is charging as fast as it can away from the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church, where some of us would like to remain.

robroy said...

Ah yes, the disingenuous "we have the Prayer book and the General Covention Resolutions", now the standard answer of charges heresy. The Righter trial makes those and other official documents moot. One can "stay silent" like Mr Robinson does. As TJ points out, TEO-ers are free to simply dismiss any and all portions of the BCP such as the Nicene creed as "historical documents" without repercussions.

As far as the "General Convention resolutions", do those only carry back to the most recent GC? In 1982, it was resolved that Jesus was the only method of salvation. A reaffirmation D058 was defeated in 2006. Now, we have Ms Schori denying it. So much for the value of "General Convention resolutions."

The reality is the right side of the spectrum in the TEO will continue auto-amputation. With the exiting of Fort Worth, Anglo-catholicism is dead in the TEO.

This process will only accelerate. In biological systems, we have negative feedback which checks movement away from homeostasis. These are refocusing forces. But there is also positive feedback which causes "chaos." These are de-focusing forces which cause snowball effects. This is precisely what is going on in the TEO. If you doubt this, wait till GC09.

Nathan J.A. Humphrey said...

I think the underlying issue in all of this is to what extent "their" actions should determine "our" actions--whoever you define as "us" and "them." TEC is allowing the actions of departing dioceses to determine a course of litigation as the reaction. The departing diocese are allowing the objectionable practices and policies of TEC to determine their reaction.

My point is that no action is determinative if one is grounded in something other than reactivity. That is, if we know who "we" are, and "our" identity is rooted in God's revelation to us in the face of Jesus Christ, then our actions do not need to be reactions to any "them." This is not to say that what "they" do doesn't matter--of course it matters--but it does raise the question of *how* it ought to matter to "us."

I'll continue to critique the "outside strategy" from the perspective of (I hope) an empathetic observer (if not always sympathetic with the views held on all questions by those espousing that strategy) simply because I believe that this strategy has been tried in the past, and always found wanting.

The "inside strategy" has also been tried and found wanting by those who are not content to await patiently the coming of the Lord (you can perhaps tell that Advent is on my mind...) and who wish to have decision, judgment, and discipline in the here and now. My position is that what keeps us from decision, judgment, and discipline isn't just the heretical actions of any particular "them," but the schismatic hearts that *all* of us (and them) carry around inside of us--the hearts of stone that we have not exchanged for a heart of flesh.

And as long as we carry around these hard hearts, God will not bless our initiatives with truly Spirit-filled decision, judgment, and discipline. Why? Because our fissiparousness continually stands in the way of our discernment not of the Truth of God's Word, but of how to live that Truth in our relationships with others--all others--howsoever heretical and schismatic *we* (or "they") may be.

As far as robroy's assertion about Anglo-catholicism being dead in TEC, politically the catholic witness may have been rendered pragmatically ineffective, but its potential to convert hearts and minds is very much alive in my little corner of it. And as long as that potential remains, its political potential remains as well. Because, after all, who cares about Anglo-catholicism as a set of peculiar customs and proclivities? Its only real value is in the intensity with which it points to the Real Presence of Christ in our midst, a Presence which endures no matter who is PB or what diocese considers itself to be or not to be aligned with TEC.

The "outside strategy" is pernicious because it leads to an idolatry of structures as being somehow able to protect us from heresy. The "inside strategy" at least has the virtue of perseverance going with it, with all the potential that patience has in producing faithfulness in its practitioner and converting awe in those who see it for what it really is (i.e., a walking in the way of the Cross). For those who see it as merely foolishness, well, they are in good company. The way of the Cross is always foolishness to some, and a stumbling block to others.

Many thanks for your frank exchanges. I wish you every blessing, and I recognize the difficult choices everyone faces in these extraordinary times.

NH+

Kevin M said...

andrew,

By no means am I saying that if someone disagrees with TEC, they should leave, but there's a big difference between criticizing its actions and working to change them and continuing to decry it as "apostate" and "heretical." If things have gotten so bad as to require that language, what point is there in staying?

Matthew said...

Unfortunately, I no longer consider it to be our duty to be yoked with unbelievers. Any evangelism that occurs in the Episcopal Church will soon, of necessity, have to be done from the outside in.

Shawn said...

Hi,

I believe that TEC gives room for people to bring their questions, doubts and even skepticism with them to church, while still remaining faithful to historic faith as defined in the Creeds. I appreciate that room. Having been in a denomination in the past where there was no room to disagree on petty issues such as the morality of going to the movies or women wearing pants, I appreciate the room to wrestle with my faith. It is because of that room to really wrestle that my faith has deepened, and I find myself much more "orthodox" than I ever imagined.

Furthermore, if we are going to talk about schisms, we might as well go right back to the Jerusalem Council.

In Christ,
Shawn

Andrew said...

"If things have gotten so bad as to require that language, what point is there in staying?"

If things had been so bad as to require Integrity et al to accuse ECUSA of bigotry etc, what point was there in staying?

I'm going to question anyone's motivations in staying to fight for their cause in an organization they feel has gone astray, nor the motivations of those that feel that said organization has passed the point where reversal is so improbable that attempts to change it from within are practically futile.

Randall Stewart said...

A couple of observations:

While we often can poke fun at TEC becoming Unitarian, the reality is closer to what Fr. Humphrey described-that of something theologically influenced by the UCC. (Not that I personally want to go there!)

Which is an interesting analogy. My German immigrant forebears were members of the old Evangelical Synod (now part of the UCC); their neighbors in the next town were LCMS. When I first read Fr. Humphrey's post I was inclined to think "no, it is not the same because LCMS emerged out of a specific Prussian controversy over Eucharistic rites and Calvinist theology." Then I realized how different the UCC would look today if all of those midwestern German immigrants (whose communion rites, in reality, were no more diverse than what we have in Anglicanism) had been part of the same Synod. One wonders if the UCC as we know it would even exist.

Just a thought. (I'll go back to not commenting now...)
Randall

tjmcmahon said...

The "what ifs" will no doubt plague us long into the future if we focus on them. UCC aside, had the Affirmation of St. Louis clergy stayed in TEC, it would be a much different place than it is today. But the issue then is much like the issue now. What is a "first order" issue is not determined by a vote of the majority. The signers of the Affirmation of St. Louis left because theologically, they had no choice, WO really was that important an issue, even if the majority saw it as minor, or at least tolerable. Now it is fixed in canon law, and no longer an option.
For me, the issue is communion of the unbaptized. It is the policy of the local TEC diocese. It also is completely contrary to the Church as I understand it. How do I stay in such a place, knowing that 20 cents of every dollar I give goes to the diocese to support this. And it has the complete support, apparently of the PB of TEC, who has wonderful things to say about this diocese (with its ASA of 700, all of whom could fit in 2 of its 25 churches.
Oddly, the same issue is often faced by retailers. You own a store, ask your existing customers what they want, and stock what 70% of them ask for. You will then discover that 30% of the customers shop elsewhere. And you do not gain new customers unless you address the needs of the people who do not shop with you, and get the word out.

Frair John said...

Quite frankly I still find it amazing that we allow what boils down to a group of Arminian Donatists to wander around calling themselves "orthodox."

The young fogey said...

Dear Father,

Where we agree: as Jeffrey Steenson, soon to be a Roman Catholic priest, has said, the world doesn't need more denominations, and holding to the creeds and that same-sex sex is wrong are not enough to have a coherent theology or church.

Bishop Iker, the other Anglo-Catholic diocesans and now-Archbishop Duncan were right to leave. But their short- and long-term destinations aren't the answer either.

The Anglican Communion should not exist as a schismatic entity. That it does is the result of a consistent refusal to enter into the fullness of God's communion in fulfillment of Jesus' High Priestly Prayer "that they all may be one..."

Correct. As corporate reunion with the Catholic churches obviously will never happen, ultimately if the above is what one really believes then in conscience one must pope or ’dox.

Much of Anglican culture is worth saving, within the Catholic fold, but Protestantism left (communing the unbaptised, gay weddings) or right (reinventing the LCMS) is a dead end. Always was.

The young fogey said...

With the exiting of Fort Worth, Anglo-catholicism is dead in the TEO.

Yes.

jaroke said...

Anglo-catholicism in the Episcopal Church may be endangered but is not yet dead. There exist a few thriving parishes I know of and probably many more that I do not. I would mention St Clement in Philadelphia, St Paul's, K Street, the Advent of Christ the King in San Francisco and St Thomas the Apostle in Los Angeles. I agree that the national church and most dioceses are hostile or, at best, indifferent to Anglo-Catholics but in my experience they do not actively interfere with, or oppose us. James Kennish

jaroke said...

Anglo-catholicism in the Episcopal Church may be endangered but is not yet dead. There exist a few thriving parishes I know of and probably many more that I do not. I would mention St Clement in Philadelphia, St Paul's, K Street, the Advent of Christ the King in San Francisco and St Thomas the Apostle in Los Angeles. I agree that the national church and most dioceses are hostile or, at best, indifferent to Anglo-Catholics but in my experience they do not actively interfere with, or oppose us. James Kennish

jaroke said...

The ACNA bunch are spinning their wheels. They will never amount to anything. Too many strident and divergent voices under one roof and they have only just begun. The only honest schismatics are the Anglican Church in America who seek reunion with the Holy See, on their terms. Good luck to them, it'll never happen. My solution is to remain in the Episcopal Church, as imperfect as it may be. James Kennish

The young fogey said...

Mr Kennish:

I'm a happy part-timer at one of those parishes. But Catholicism isn't congregationalism. No Catholic bishops = no church. Ritualist congregationalism wasn't what the Anglo-Catholic movement was supposed to be about (although in practice outside AC dioceses it often became that) and is a dead end. So again ACism is finished in the Episcopal Church, which blew it off to be a liberal Protestant church after all. Liturgical and sacramental, but Protestant.

jaroke said...

The episcopal election in Northern Michigan saddens me. It is wrong for a multitude of reasons. I note their ASA is 690. This reminds me of the old rotten boroughs in England whereby members of parliament virtually owned their seats. I expect there must be parishes with ASA of 690. It begs the question - should Northern Michigan even be a diocese. James Kennish

The young fogey said...

It's fairly well-known that there are RC parishes bigger than some Episcopal dioceses. I know, quality, quantity and all that but it puts things into perspective and makes you think. The mainline has been sidelined in America definitely since about 1975 as Joseph Bottum explains.

Evan said...

Excuse my commenting at such a late date, I've only now run across your blog.

I'm in an AMiA parish currently working with ACNA as the regional dioceses start to form and take in the various splinter groups of continuing Anglican congregations. I appreciate the concerns you have for our work, but I do think that you neglect some points that reveal an orientation towards unity rather than schism in the work of Iker and others.

Given that a number of provinces in the Anglican Communion have declared themselves out of communion with TEC, and that the continuing Anglican churches coming together in ACNA have worked decidedly to preserve the unity of the Church that had been disrupted since Robinson's election, there seems to be a world of difference between this and just any Protestant denominational splitting. You don't account at all for the fact that the departing churches were departing from a situation of schism in the first place. As dioceses and parishes of TEC, they stood out of communion with a significant portion of the Anglican Communion and felt compelled to do something about it for the sake of the unity of the faithful.

Whether or not you agree with the strategy that was undertaken, it's difficult to deny that... from seeking episcopal oversight in the Souther Cone, Nigeria, Uganda, Rwanda, etc.... to continuing to clarify that they did not intend to leave the Anglican Communion in their leaving of TEC... to now their formation of a new province to replace TEC, already being recognized by other Anglican Communion provinces... given all of this, it's difficult to deny that these churches, whether the succeed in doing so or not, are not engaging in schismatic activity but rather trying to end it for the sake of unity.

Your pointing out that on the bare level of institutional polity a new structure has been set up is a rather weak case for denominational schism. It ignores the bases of this polity shift and the communal relationship that has been sustained throughout the whole affair.

Nathan J.A. Humphrey said...

Hi Evan,

You raise an interesting objection. My problem with the ecclesiological strategy being employed here is that it's been done before and found wanting.

The underlying question is the basis for unity. I am no apologist for TEC as an institution when it comes to its basis for unity: It doesn't really have any inherent basis as far as I can tell.

It might help to know that I believe that every Christian from the pope on down exists in a state of schism. So it's not that you're a schismatic and I'm not. We both are. And there's no easy existential solution: convert to the Roman Catholic Church, for instance, because every church is schismatic. My blog exists to explore what ecclesiology looks like in a pan-schismatic context, and what this means for our relationships with each other, both institutionally and interpersonally. My basic thesis is that once we recognize how utterly schismatic we are, we are called to conversion and penitence and humility of a sort that leads to soft-heartedness for each other and that opens up room for the Holy Spirit to heal us within the one Body of Christ that is the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church (OHCAC), of which we are all members. Further, this OHCAC is not merely an "invisible" ideal but a reality that we live into via our local ecclesial communities, but only to the extent that we and the communities themselves are transformed.

The best place to start in looking at things from this perspective is my post "Who Is A Schismatic?"--I'd be interested to know what you think.

Blessings in this Holy Week,

NH+

Evan said...

Thanks for your gracious response... I've read your linked post and may comment there at some point. I'm also interested in commenting on your most recent posted, as it is a complex/confusing/perhaps troubling canonical innovation.

I would agree with you in that we are all "schismatic" on some level insofar as we do not stand in the unity of the body of Christ... and although I would feel a bit hesitant about using the word "schismatic" in many cases, I imagine some of that might be more a matter of definitions that need to be hammered out, and I'm a latecomer here so I don't intend to step on the toes of any discussions that have already gone on. But I do agree with the substance of your assertion.

Perhaps, in this instance, I might simply add another description of ACNA's intentions in response to this thread. As you characterize yourself as taking on the "inside strategy", I think those in ACNA would say the same about themselves. That is, the realignment that is being attempted in ACNA is meant to remain within the communion from whence it came, and never understood itself to have left the communion (limited though that communion is, to be sure). I think this is a bit of what I was getting at. And I think something like this can be affirmed even with a situation of pan-schism... that is, there must be some sense in which we can say, "that's a step towards unity" even if it's a step taken within a wider situation of disunity.

Evan said...

...sorry, more thoughts.

Of course if TEC and ACNA are both claiming to be pursuing an inside strategy of Anglican communion within the United States and yet neither recognize the other as in communion, we have a bit of a problem. Hence blogs like your own, I suppose!

Another difficulty that adds to the situation for ACNA, and a fact that I think strengthens your original post rather than the points I'm trying to make, is that many of the Anglicans now joining in ACNA are not cradle Episcopalians, but rather those who have come from other denominations entirely. While I don't think this changes the fact that ACNA intends an "inside strategy" of preservation of communion in light of the Anglican crisis, it undeniably throws a foreign element into the mix.

Nathan J.A. Humphrey said...

Evan,

Your perspective is very welcome and quite refreshing.

The whole concept of "communion" needs to be questioned if you have this Alice in Wonderland situation of X and B are both in communion with A but X is not in communion with B while B doesn't even recognize the legitimacy of X. What does it mean to be "in communion" in such a context?

My answer is that, essentially, if "in communion" means "we like you and we agree with you and we're willing to share our toys [sacraments, clergy, buildings] with you" this is a far cry from communion in Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit.

The problem, of course, is that one can't just say "I'm in communion with you no matter what" because that lets the other party off the hook of all responsibility toward you--by affirming a complete commitment to the relationship, you've taken the first essential step toward real communion, I think, but the details of what it means to be in an interdependent, reciprocal relationship, has to be worked out. (This is why I am interested in the emerging Anglican Covenant, as a way of getting there.)

The best analogy for a pan-schismatic entity such as the Anglican Communion is that of a multidysfunctional family. Which is what my developing "conflict ecclesiology" is trying to address: what does it mean to be "in communion" when we are also fundamentally broken in our relationships?

Holy Week blessings,

Nathan Humphrey+